Sharing the American Experience


In the first of two reflections on the changing needs of parishes and the impact of fewer priests, the parish priest of St Pauls and St Mary’s Glenrothes reports on a meeting called to explore how the American experience might help people reflect on their own experience and the challenges faced by the church in Scotland. 

150 people came to Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Dunfermline to hear Fr. Mark Latcovich speak on how some of the United States dioceses have been trying to develop their mission while experiencing difficulties similar to our own. The meeting was organised by St. Andrew’s and St. Margaret’s Deanery Pastoral Council.

Fr. Mark is a regular visitor to Fife and is rector of St. Mary and Borromeo Seminaries, Cleveland, Ohio. He holds a doctorate in sociology, serves currently as chair of the pastoral theology department, has previously directed a doctor of ministry programme and at the moment is directing a doctoral thesis on the question of what has proved valuable in questions of parishes working together, amalgamating or merging.

He showed how the question of the future is not simply numbers of priests to parishes and people, but how to live in the situation we find ourselves in dealing with the shortage of priests and parish personnel, changing demographics, and a general drop in numbers.

At the centre of his presentation was the need for a diocese to have an understanding of the situation it was living in in order to develop a clear vision of what it was trying to do about it. It was clear from how he talked about successful collaborations, mergers and amalgamations that there is no easy, quick solution.  Much hard work, prayer, study and action is necessary for those involved in developing clusters or new parishes.

Parishes need to learn how to assess how vibrant they are by evaluating themselves through a variety of headings such as evangelisation, liturgy, stewardship. In doing so, parishes can see where they need to develop and how they may find it useful to collaborate with other parishes. It may be also that a parish will come to the conclusion that it cannot go on its present form. Fr. Mark emphasised the usefulness of Appreciative Inquiry in helping people give thanks for the good things they have as wellf as being a help for looking at necessary changes for the future.

The role of the bishop is vital.  He has to work with all levels of the church community in developing a vision of the future, while at all times taking great care to communicate and to encourage communication within the whole diocese.  Solutions cannot be imposed the top down. The Church’s canon law provides a good, freeing  framework for this consultative process, challenging bishop, priests and laity to make sure that everyone has a chance to be involved either individually or through the various councils of the Church’s life.

Fr. Mark thought that as a Catholics carrying out this process we work through the church’s structures.  If these structures are not as responsive as they might be we should not give up but persist in finding ways to help them work.  There is a danger that if we bypass the structures we engage in congregationalism and perhaps end up with a break-a-way parish or congregation.

By their baptism all Catholics are involved in the mission of the church.  If a searching look is taken at the situation of our parishes, priests and people, and greater collaboration takes place, the same number of priests as we have had in the past will not be necessary.  This means taking on the challenge of providing better ways of training for those willing to be involved in lay ministry.

After a brief opportunity for participants to share thoughts with one another there was a time for questions.  The purpose of the question time was to provide an opportunity for people to reflect on how the content of the talk could be developed within our situation in the diocese. This did not happen directly and the time was taken up by people making statements, in a sometimes vehement manner, about what they thought was happening or had not happened in the diocese up until now.  Fr. Mark, in response, continued to emphasise the need for communication, for following proper means of consultation, and for working within the Church.

The purpose of asking Fr. Mark to speak was to help the deanery reflect on how the situations he had studied might encourage deeper thought on our own situations. The organisers hope that the evening helped people to do this. They thought perhaps 30 people might come along. The large attendance shows the depth of concern about the future development of the diocese.

Much of what was said was not new to the diocese.  Previous studies and reports identified some of the ideas and suggestions, but somehow they didn’t bear fruit.  It was valuable that Fr. Mark presented them to us again from within a lived experience of how they can be put into action.

After the meeting Fr. Mark suggested that it might be worthwhile looking at some dioceses where clusters of parishes with ministers other than priests living and working in them had been developed in rural areas.  Given the difference in scale between Cleveland and St. Andrews and Edinburgh, some of the ideas developed in American rural areas could be applicable in our towns.

The participants were challenged by Fr. Mark and by his material to deepen what has been done so far to develop a good way for Catholics in the diocese of St. Andrews and Edinburgh to prepare for a future which is going to be quite different from the one we have been used to.  I felt stimulated to look at the importance of communication, of what is going on and is not going on at every level of my ministry, and to realise how we have to help one another embrace change. I also want to develop my understanding of consultation and collaboration, to realise that any process is going be lengthy and often arduous, to keep on challenging and being challenging by the church at every level, and to keep to the forefront of my mind that all process has to be rooted in a praying and worshipping Church.

Fr. Mark gave examples of good and bad practice from his own diocese and others and has made available a bibliography and a much shortened one.   These can be had from Fr. Hand  Notes on the evening made by Patricia Carrol can also be had from



Feb/Mar 2020

In June 2019 Open House held a conference exploring possible new directions for the Catholic Church in Scotland. See conference papers.

Open House also held a conference on the role of lay people in the governance of the Catholic Church in November 2013. See conference papers.